It works just fine. When I think of notes, grocery lists and todo lists come to mind. Looks like a potential opportunity to use something like node-unfluff [0] to scrape page content. It needs to have: I really like Google Photos for it's excellent search capabilities. For this purpose, pen and paper should be good enough in my point of view. Free.It has everything Evernote can do, but there’s no premium tier. That's pretty much what I do, except using UltraEdit as the editor. Even notepad.exe has 3 step undo, so that is totally unacceptable. But even implementing a broad subset might be hard. I do academic research as a grad student and it's very reassuring to know that if my office doesn't burn down or get ransacked, that my pen-and-paper research notebooks will be there for reference to see what I did on a past project. Nonetheless there is really good potential in the software and I encourage getting a paid subscription to support its development. I'm a member of the Electron maintainers group and fully realize that this is partly on us for not educating better. This is especially true for a notes app that is supposed to last you over many many years and possibly hold thousands of notes at some point. I have used plenty of them and currently settled for Simplenote for quick notes and Joplin for collection of notes in chapters. If you like the idea of cyber note taking, but are worried about hackers snooping on your thoughts, Standard Notes has you covered. I used to work for AWS Support, I'm not affiliated any more, but there is a huge difference in response times, also the chat and phone call options are much faster, and you can really ask about anything not just specific problems (architecture guidance, best practices). Well, paper, yes, but usually not pen. Standard Notes is a lot like Simplenote. Excellent effort! On Windows, there's EFS and NTFS ACLs for privacy (and BitLocker, of course). Since it's just plain markdown files, you can save to Dropbox, git, NFS, or anything else really. The Electron Desktop App simply loads an index.html which points at remote JavaScript. Paper notepads and daily calendars are very popular on Kickstarter. Its open source. I get the multiplatform thing, but Electron >_<. Needs transparent encryption though, so you can push your notes to untrustworthy places. Most of my org notes would be ok to edit with nothing more complicated than the labels+tags+checkboxes+tables features. James Altucher uses a waiter's pad. I hope that while you may be taken aback by some of your experiences, that you don't give up on our mission, and understand that, as difficult as it may be, and as hard as I may stumble, I'm always trying to do the right thing, both for the business and for the users. This is a lifesaver if you have to quickly search for a scanned receipt or a screenshot. That would make both my life and your life much easier for the time being. Not that long. Especially for a software oriented towards security and privacy a clearer and straightforward marketing strategy would be much more appreciated. Learn more. I'll bet that .txt files (which is what I currently use to store notes) will outlast .doc. Speaking personally, I completely rely upon PDFs and images and things accompanying my notes because of the nature of the work I do (I have about 4,700 pages of research and almost a gigabyte of imagery all tied together in a Scrivener project for a single piece of work, for example), and the frozen feature set so proudly advertised smacks of "people need to take notes exactly the way I do," which is an immediate turn-off for me. The most important reason people chose typora is: Or it gets wet, or when I forget it, and I sure as Schmidt won't be able to read them in 50 years, because the only thing I have that is that old is my physical body. There's no way to do this in Simplenote. I like Smugmug as far as layout/features and use it too, just wish I could self host it. The best note-taking apps sync across iPhone, Mac, Windows, Android, and the web. "Camlistore (Content-Addressable Multi-Layer Indexed Storage) is under active development. Part of the appeal of Simplenote is markdown support but the other cool thing is WordPress support. Seems like this project doesn't offer much at moment except cool name. [0]: https://github.com/ageitgey/node-unfluff. Or sign each release with a private key on a machine that's "very protected from the Internet" and only have the Electron app automatically pull the update if the signature can be verified with the public key. Of course, if you love using an elegant pen for the esthetics and freedom of it (okay, hard to argue with that), then do anything important on fine, archival, loose paper with a beautiful, pigmented (not dye) ink, and scan and OCR it to once again maximize its usefulness and longevity. - self hosted front end with a simple management interface for organising photos into albums, uploading, setting permissions It's actually much harder to do everything this way. After work on the paid product was released, the "marketing" copy was actually dumbed down, and not made more hyperbolic. Since an AppImage is just a compressed filesystem, you can also extract its content very similar to a zip file. The only thing that is missing from the pro is folders and a text editor, which for basic usage is not needed. I like Google Keep as well, but I can only really use it for "simple" notes that I take while mobile. For those wanting a little more power and flexibility, we created Extended, which unlocks powerful editors, themes, and automated backups. Sadly it is closed source and Mac only so it does not have the same overall philosophy (despite the note output being very portable). ", "The latest release is 0.9 ("Astrakhan"), released 2015-12-30.". I know it's a radical thing to say but technology isn't always the solution to our problems. In the HN crowd, I wonder how many notes still start off on paper, but are then transcribed into digital. Hmm, good point, looks like you can export individual notes as PDF, but that's it. On top of that, I find their organization features not very good. Thanks! Other private, short-lived, growth-oriented companies? There is also a huge number of extensions, back when I was doing math stuff I used the LaTeX one pretty often. My principle, maybe my only, problem with paper is appending to notes I've already closed by opening new notes after them. They let you jot down quick notes, search, export, and sync everything you want to remember. Go ahead, downvote away. It's set up to use Dina, as that's my default font on all my systems. In fact Evernote has been advertising handwritten text indexing for quite a while: I thought down-voting was for bad behavior, not disagreement. and join one of thousands of communities. This is part of what Standard Notes addresses. http://www.acuriousmix.com/2014/09/03/designing-a-personal-k... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8270759. If you check the actual changes, it does seem like it's under active development: It is under active development they just haven't released a new version. Standard Notes Completes Penetration Test and Cryptography Audit. I wasn't concerned with privacy, but very concerned with longevity, portability, and history. All that within Dropbox directory, accessible anywhere. Microsoft OneNote for a free note-taking app. "A brief record of facts, topics, or thoughts, written down as an aid to memory." Overview:Microsoft’s free cross-platform note-taking app gives Evernote a run for its money, though the interface leaves something to be desired. A native mac app would be a huge boost. Now, THIS is what I call customer service :D. Jokes aside I sense and appreciate your commitment, and (apart to get rid of the red UI :p) that's mostly the reason why I felt comfortable in paying the subscription in the first place. Evernote and Simplenote are great tools and I would recommend them for mostpeo… There are really exciting improvements slated for release this year. Sounds disastrous enough to warrant active policing. Zim[0] (open source) has a lot of these features. I had a similar thoughts, but didn't want to start from scratch (I include Electron in this definition). Hugely. Pull request anyone? As it stands, I have to preview my document to see the images. Virtually everything I've needed to make notes on over the last 22 years are in a folder hierarchy of flat text files. I'd imagine others who spend the majority of their time using computers are in the same boat. Follow us on Reddit 480 Followers. For example using the advanced editor on the desktop app means that in the android app you will have a note with visible html tags. But that's not from laziness. The log tracks the entire edit history of the file, so you can follow the evolution of the document, undo changes, whatever. Overall I have the perception of a really (passive) aggressive business model in many ways and as far as I have the will to help the devs of Standard Notes as a paying user I couldn't help but feeling a bit manipulated in my decision to get a paid subscription in a quite unfair way a few times during my first hours of using the software. Let someone else who knows how to crack 'secure' apps decide if your app is secure or not. Subresource Integrity can also help prevent damage from compromised external hosts. In the meantime, feel free to submit a pull request for any of those items and I'll be happy to merge it in. But I plan to move off of it after I accidentaly removed part of the note and noticed then that there is no undo at all. I went pro mainly to support the team. People who like digital notes might benefit from this system. At this point I find it most useful to type up the "cooked" knowledge into vimwiki at various points. The core mission of SN has always been anti-bloat. Same here. - simple security so you can share only with the people you want to share with, especially simple for older relatives In the end the software experience feels more broken than simple. Items are encrypted with random keys. You have no idea how much crap I would throw towards the Evernote company if only it was worth something :P, [–]bitario[] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]kalivas 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). 1. I use a cross-platform clone called nvPy on my primary machine, it's a pretty adequate substitute. It works with a simple app to handle syncing the paper with multiple digital services/tags. Add version tags to the git repo, that way I don't have to wonder what's changed between deploys https://blog.evernote.com/blog/2015/06/23/6-ways-evernote-em... https://github.com/standardfile/ruby-server/tree/master, https://aws.amazon.com/activate/self-starters/. There's even a built-in plugin to automatically commit to git periodically (useful for standalone notebooks, since you don't really want to be opening git manually). Originally published on my blog. Simpleen is a Markdown translation web app and API service. Even though I think that there is no real need of nested tags (especially when the system can't be clearly mirrored on the android app) the actual extension should work correctly. Standard Notes is a valuable note taking app alternative for individuals concerned with privacy and security matters with a strip down user experience that feels overall more lacking than simple, though, and both design choices and a business model/marketing strategy that generate some concerns from a customer point of view. Unlike Laverna, Standard Notes is being actively developed. Simplenote can be tied to a WordPress account for easy WordPress posting. Containerized solution with the hope of easier portability and better security by sandboxing type solutions. I would write the app myself! I intended my comment to start a dialogue on problems that don't necessarily need technical solutions. It also sounds like this person was quite negligent in handling their own data - Standard Notes certainly asks more of you as far as problem solving because it’s under development by one really thoughtful person - but it beats using any non encrypted or “encrypted” service by mainstream options. > What I write is important to me. That looks pretty great. In the case of Ulysses, I can still use the same version that I currently own in 10 years even if the company behind it goes out of business (given it will still run on our machines that we use at that point) + updates until the next paid upgrade (if that happens). As I know you understood I was just trying to give you the sense of what it is the user/customer experience of your product because I like it and I feel there is much room for improvement, in the software and in the business model. The best note-taking apps. I used to like Keep as well, but I needed something that would work offline, even trello wasn't an option. [3] Moving subfolders of notes in the app makes the notes completely disappear. Believe it or not, I was sort of happy to hear that you thought our business model was "aggressive", because the one thing I've heard from every business-savvy person before was that it's not aggressive enough. The only thing it is lacking is something like Evernote clipper. If someone want to go that way OpenSuse Build Service. I love the spirit of this. But switching off because it doesnt sync with anything and I cant use it on my Android. Apple Notes? But you then will miss out on the easy binary delta updates using AppImageUpdate, and have an extra step of unpacking, and will need more storage space. Standard Notes seems the very least amazing. That's an excellent question! Open Simplenote, and click on the “Note” settings. Downvoted. I own, use, and enjoy Ulysses, but I wouldn't buy it at its current price. Simplenote syncs across virtually everything and supports AppImage, DEB, and RPM. macOS. Using it only for notes is probably not doing it justice. Because I can't use it on a free account (it resets the checkbox every time). I took a lot of notes on pen and paper during my studies, but after a decade of moving around (including different countries) I have none of them left. Apple Notes provides several options while typing a note. >Depends on your definition of a "note" I guess. You can access the app without sign up here: Very nice. That's crazy dangerous - if that endpoint gets compromised, nothing keeps the attacker from running `rm -rf /` on every user's machine. I do that in vim with a Markdown file and the GPG extension for vim. The core version had similar colors on mobile, similar interface on web, and similar website language. AlternativeTo is a free service that helps you find better alternatives to the products you love and hate. Comparing note-taking apps on your own is a pain, which is why we've put together this Evernote vs OneNote showdown. The 5-year plan is our take on a sustainable, long term plan. The format is just plain text. 1. Maybe I (or somebody else) can write an importer for Standard Notes to make it easy to switch from Apple Notes? After this episode my sense of reliability for Standard Notes dropped quite considerably. Quiver is another awesome note taking app, native and superfast on macOS: And 10.8 MB on OS X. Noticed you're using AWS. It's a good defense against CDNs turning malicious. Your comment isnt helpful for people looking for a digital solution. Notes can be plain text markdown documents, or rich text, WYSIWYG format. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. I feel this will work for a lot of people, especially less technical users. For searching, I use the old ZTree, usually finds what I want in seconds. Yes, you won't be able to index them and search them and yadda yadda yadda but you're writing _notes_, not full-fledged documents. So much so that I've written some JXA (Javascript for Automation) code to extract all of my notes to self-contained HTML files. Standard Note (Image credit: ... For something more feature-light and text-oriented than a lot of the best note taking apps, try out SimpleNote, a cross-platform offering from Automattic. Your quote at the top regarding long-term storage had me thinking in that direction (the long-term stuff is still "notes" to me). VS Code provides Markdown editing capabilities out-of-the-box, but you can install an extension for even greater functionality, like shortcuts, creating a table of contents, and more. >> I want to be able to read it fifty years from now ... > I've read Altucher's words on using a waiter's pad and he says the same thing -- it's for ephemera. Over the years I've tried HTML, DOC, WRI (Word pad), but find TXT is the best for longevity. Interesting! I'm also yet to find the perfect photos app. You can bind such paper into a beautiful notebook after writing and scanning. That way, we get the digital benefits of searching, organizing, mass storage in tiny space, unlimited and free mass duplication, and so on, while still being able to print multiple copies anywhere on demand in order to produce redundant hard copies with extreme archival durability (provided you do some research on archival paper and printer ink/toner). https://medium.com/@mobitar/evernote-is-what-happens-when-yo... https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki/Getting-Started, https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki/Cloud-Syncing. Flatpak and appimage are the most open friendly. Will definitely try to get to it. I hope it's a success! Storing a lifetime's worth of typed text is maybe tens or hundreds of megabytes. I was going to pay a developer to create something like this because I wanted its exact features so badly. Flatpak using individual repositories which I prefer. And attempting to justify it by using a single dictionary definition, isn't logic, it's wordplay. http://www.acuriousmix.com/2014/09/03/designing-a-personal-k... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8270759, https://camlistore.googlesource.com/camlistore. All your notes are synced across devices allowing you to take notes anywhere. The availability of old information is strongly related to the ability to index it. Distribution independent, and it's super easy to get auto updating in Electron. Thanks for sharing, I enjoy reading your code. I don't agree with the author much. This makes sense as there is not a lot to upset anyone with the core free version, which was kind of the goal ;). What's the best format to distribute Linux apps? Where there's demand for privacy and security, notepad falls short, as you cannot password-protect your notes. I personally bought Ulysses and use that as my notes taking app for text-only documents, and Apple Notes for short-lived image related notes. True in some measure of any product in any stage of development. I use flat files in markdown since 2010 with Sublime Text with extensions: MarkdownEditing, Table Editor, All power of Sublime Text, Super fast full text search, Full index of all header sections in all files trough Cmd+Shift+R, Full index of all file names trough Cmd+P, Language | files | blank | comment | code. These days, it's better to use printers to put more substantial and important information on paper. Gotcha. See. Evernote for the ultimate digital notebook. I use pen and paper all the time but only for ephemera. It provides you with all of Extended’s benefits for a long time to come, and also helps support Standard Notes in developing a secure application, both technically and financially. And Quiver has far more functionality. 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